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Q: What inspired you to write this book?
A: Even before college, I'd been asking myself questions about identity,
and what it meant to be African American. For a lot of black people, especially
of my generation, one of the situations we often come up against is another
person, black or white, questioning our authenticity as a black person. A
certain, "blacker-than-thou" attitude. Plus I was becoming more and more
frustrated by the limited way African Americans were portrayed in the national
media. To me it seemed the farther we moved from segregation and the civil rights
era, the more the definition of what it meant to be black was changing. I wanted
a fuller definition of what people meant by that term, and a fuller picture of
what it means to be black.
Q: You traveled all across the country, for six years, conducting over two
hundred interviews. How did you even begin to decide where you would go and who
you would talk to?
A: There were a number of places I knew I wanted to visit because I was
always curious about black life there: places like Alaska and Bangor, Maine, and
Minneapolis, home of the artist formerly known as Prince, and Coeur d'Alene,
Idaho, reputed home of the Aryan Nation. For other places I simply looked at the
map and thought: I wonder what black life is like in, say, North Dakota or Salt
Lake City? According to demographic maps and the U.S. Census department, black
people live all over the nation, and I wanted to encounter them for myself and
see what life for them was like in these places we don't normally assume an
African American presence. And for a number of places I visited I just trusted in
serendipity: I let the wind take me where it saw fit.
As for the people I spoke with, I found that one person often led to ten and the
ten to a hundred. Often I'd go to the local library and do some research on
interesting locals, and often the local newspaper would be profiling someone
while I was in town. I usually wound up with a list of people I wanted to speak
to that was longer than time would permit.
Q: Many writers have written on the black experience in America. What do you
feel differentiates your book from those that came before?
A: The last book I could find written in the same vein--a black person
traversing the entire country and speaking with other black folk about their
lives--was John A. Williams's This is My Country Too, published in 1964. Of
course a number of people had written about black life in certain regions,
especially the South; or about black folk in a particular city. But I had not
seen any by another African American that attempted to create portrait of black
life outside the well-worn areas we watch on the TV news day in and day out, or
read about in the newspapers or see on the cover of Time. I took Zora Neale
Hurston seriously when she said: "For various reasons, the average struggling,
non-morbid Negro is the best-kept secret in America.
Q: Did you meet with any resistance from people you wanted to interview?
Generally, what did most of the people you spoke with think about this book?
A: In the main most people were more than happy to sit down with me.
Again, most of the people I encountered would be what the media would refer to as
"ordinary people." Though I found all of them extraordinary in some way.
Nonetheless, these were people who weren't usually given the opportunity to voice
their thoughts and hopes and fears to a complete stranger, and to a person who
took them seriously. Generally we wound up talking longer than I could have
imagined.
As for the idea of the book, I was surprised that most of the people thought what
I was attempting was a new idea, and were surprised by my approach, and thought
it high time that the definition of black America be broadened.
Q: A couple of questions about your title. Why did you decide to call this
book Walking on Water? The book is subtitled, Black American Lives at the Turn
of the Twenty-First Century. What do you think the biggest changes in how we view
race will be in the next century?
A: The title comes from an incident that occurred off the Georgia coast in
about 1801. At about that time the United States Government made the importation
of slaves from abroad illegal. Nonetheless, slaves were still smuggled into the
country. One of the places these smugglers used was the then underpopulated
Golden Isles off the coast of Georgia. On one of the ships, a group of Ibos
successfully carried out a mutiny. A leader of the group then said: The water
brought us here, the water will take us back. Now as to what happened next the
record is unclear. Perhaps some of those men and women drowned. In one magical
account by the novelist Paule Marshall they actually walked back! But for me this
was a compelling metaphor for the current state of black America. As a group
African American fought the Powers That Be and won. The question is then, What
next? Whether we can or cannot, the faith of being able to do something like walk
on water is a powerful one.
That metaphor is particularly relevant, I believe, for black folk today. To me
that includes a great deal of faith and work. And by extension I see it as a call
to disentangle ourselves from the excuse of "race" and begin to look upon one
another as culturally diverse, but the same, as more similar than different, and
to put aside the silly, destructive, hateful, war-mongering language of pathology
and superiority.
Q: You met a young white man on your trip who insisted, quite convincingly,
that he was black. Can a white person be black?
A: To me this goes to the roots of the idea of what it means to be black
in America. This was a young white man--by his features and skin color and hair
color, you would figure him to be a descendent of the Vikings. Yet he had grown
up from a very early age as the son of a black family in Brooklyn, and though it
was not an easy experience, by and by, he could not see himself as being anything
other than what they were, the people who cared for him and knew him. He had been
immersed in African American culture from the time he was practically a toddler.
Do I, who grew up in the cradle of the black South, and who have the same
features of folk from Ghana and Nigeria, have any more right to that same
affection and love of culture that he had? His case pointed out to me how what we
call black has so little to do with skin color, and more to do with culture and
ideas and, on some level, affirmation and love.
Q: What surprised you most at the end of your journey?
A: I was surprised to discover how my vision of home had altered, which is
the cliche for all travel writers, but it holds so much truth. Never in my
wildest dreams did I suspect that I would be ending my book with a discussion of
the Internet, but in the end it makes perfect sense. At this moment in the
history of our nation we are all questioning ideas of our identity, and it made
perfect sense to add to that discussion how our culture is changing and how
technology is effecting that change.
Q: As we head into the next century what needs to change about how we define "Race"?
A: In truth, I believe "race" is a tired and antiquated idea that should
be put out to pasture. No one has ever successfully defined the concept in
scientific terms; anthropologists and biologists will probably never ever agree.
From a human and a social stand point it clearly does more harm than good, and as
America becomes more of a nation, and achieves more and more of it's lofty goals,
the idea of "race" will not--cannot--find a place. I think its a term best left
in the 19th Century. We should not welcome it in the 21st.
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