Excerpted from Big Cherry Holler by Adriana Trigiani. Copyright © 2002 by Adriana Trigiani. Excerpted by permission of Ballantine Books, a division of Random House, Inc. All rights reserved. No part of this excerpt may be reproduced or reprinted without permission in writing from the publisher.
A Conversation with Adriana Trigiani
Fleeta Mullins, the cashier and cook at the Mutual, sits down with Adriana Trigiani to discuss the finer points of Big Cherry Holler, Trigiani's sequel to Big Stone Gap set in, where else? Big Stone Gap.
Fleeta Mullins: Okay, now just let me turn this thing on.
Adriana Trigiani: Fleeta?
AT: Is there a reason we're doing this interview in your car?
FM: Yes ma'am. I didn't want a bunch of input from those
layabouts at the Mutual Soda Fountain. I don't need me Spec
Broadwater tellin' me what to ask and how to ask it.
AT: No problem.
FM: Now, my first question is: did Jack Mac cheat on Ave
Maria--some of us think he did and some of us think maybe
AT: What do you think?
FM: I think men are men and he definitely had himself a fine
time whilst Ave Maria was runnin' around It-lee.
FM: So he did! I knew it! I knew it!
AT: I didn't say he did or didn't, Fleeta. That's up to you, the
FM: Well, that just stinks. You ought to tell us.
AT: If Ave Maria wants to find out, then you'll find out. The
books are written in her voice and she makes all the decisions.
FM: But you're the one writin' the story.
AT: I'm just passing along what she's thinking.
FM: Well, I guess I'll have to live with not knowing.
AT: For now.
FM: You mean I may find out in a future book?
AT: I think you might.
FM: Hallelujah. 'Cause I got me a pool goin' and I wanna win.
Now, I want to know about Pete Rutledge.
AT: Fleeta, I don't mean to be a pill, but if you're going to
smoke, could you crack a window?
FM: Sorry. I liked Pete. I wanted him to be happy--but I didn't
want him to be happy at the expense of our local Jack. Now,
help me with this--is Pete really in love with Ave Maria, or is
he just after her 'cause he can't have her?
AT: I think he really loves her.
FM: That's bold.
AT: Don't you think you could be married and make a friend
and the feelings sometimes get intense?
FM: Of course. It's happened to me.
FM: There's a man that comes to the wrestling meets over in
Kingsport--and we had coffee after a GLOW show.
AT: What's a GLOW show?
FM: The Glorious Ladies of Wrestling. Anyway, I had to have
a talk with him, 'cause he got fresh and I told him we had a lot
in common but he didn't need to be puttin' his hand on my
knee to make a point, you know what I'm sayin'?
AT: I do.
FM: I think when you're murried, you're murried and there's
no room for hanky-panky. 'Course I was raised Baptist and we
got us some rules.
AT: Were you surprised where the story went in Big Cherry
FM: I think it got serious, but I didn't mind that. I think as you
go on in life, you get you some problems and things have to be
worked out. And I like how everybody in town got into Ave's
business, 'cause you know, that's just how it is in this town.
You can't hardly floss without half the town knowin' it. Now,
them ladies at Ballantine wanted me to ask you something.
FM: When you boil it all down, what is the theme of Big
AT: Letting go. Letting go of the past, of expectations we have
about our mates, letting go of old hurts and making room
for something wonderful to happen. Growth and change are
good, don't you think?
FM: I guess so. If both in the marriage is growin' and changin'
together--but there ain't nothing worse than bein' on different
pages--when that's happens, well, it's look-out-it's-Splitsville.
AT: What did you think the theme of the book was?
FM: Keep an eagle eye on your husband. That, and don't let
your wife go off to It-lee without you.
AT: Very practical advice.
FM: Well, I'm known for that.
AT: I've heard.
FM: Well, I got to get back to the Mutual. The lunch crowd's
loading in and when they're hungry, I got to get them fed.
AT: What's the special today?
FM: Soup beans, corn bread, collard greens, spiced apples, and
AT: Sounds good.
FM: I'll save ye some.
1. Big Cherry Holler is a sequel to the bestselling Big Stone
Gap. Does it help to read Big Stone Gap before delving
into Big Cherry Holler? How did the author structure this
book as a stand-alone novel, and how does it function as
a continuation of the first book?
2. What is the significance of the title Big Cherry Holler,
both literally and figuratively?
3. When the book opens, Ave Maria and Jack Mac have been
married for eight years. How have her attitudes about herself
and about relationships changed during that time?
How has she remained a "spinster" in spirit?
4. Early in the book, it's disclosed that Jack and Ave's son,
Joe, died after a sudden illness. In what ways do Jack and
Ave deal with his death, both separately and together?
How does their marriage bear the scars of their son's untimely
5. What role does small-town life--both in Italy and in Big
Stone Gap--play in Ave's life? How do the mammoth
physical attributes of the outside world play against her
6. Ave Maria sees Jack Mac chatting with a tanned, blond
woman named Karen Bell, and immediately feels anxious.
What evidence of marital estrangement accumulates after
that incident? What aspects of Karen's personality do you
think would appeal to Jack Mac?
7. How does Ave Maria see Karen Bell as a rival, and in
which ways does she feel superior to her? Which feeling
ultimately proves more accurate?
8. Were you surprised by the revelation of Theodore's homosexuality?
Which clues--both in this book and in Big
Stone Gap--are provided before his confession? How do
you think this will affect his relationship with Ave?
9. When Ave's protege, Pearl, pleads with Ave to become a
partner in the pharmacy, she signs on without consulting
Jack Mac (much to his chagrin). What other decisions in
her life does Ave keep to herself? Is Jack justified in his
anger, or does he, too, keep some aspects of his life private?
10. Ave's daughter, Etta, is a main character in the book. Ave
describes her as "wide open, and yet very private." What
parallels can you draw between Ave and Etta, and how
are the two characters different? How is Etta a product
of Jack Mac's influence? How does she cope with her
11. How do the women of Big Stone Gap--Fleeta, Pearl, Iva
Lou--function as a sort of Greek chorus for Ave? How
does Ave affect each of their lives, and how do they,
in turn, influence hers? How has each woman evolved
throughout the two books?
12. The reader sees Ave Maria in a brand-new environment
when she travels to Italy. Which facets of her personality
come to the forefront? To what factors do you attribute
this change in attitude and appearance?
13. While in Italy, Ave imagines what her life would have been
like had her mother not married Fred Mulligan. How do
you envision Ave's life if she had grown up in Italy? Would
it have been more or less fulfilling?
14. Ave's haircut spurs an absolute transformation. In which
other ways does her appearance play a role throughout
the book? Of which other novels is this reminiscent?
15. What does Pete represent to Ave, both literally and figuratively?
How does he reawaken passion in her?
16. Theodore dismisses Ave's assertion that she didn't really
have an affair with Pete. How is this juxtaposition of
"word vs. deed" a recurrent motif in the book? What examples
can you find in the behavior of Ave, Jack Mac, and
17. When Jack Mac and Ave have their confrontation about
Karen Bell, Ave admits that she wanted him to "take her
pain away." Besides Joe's death, what other issues has Ave
Maria grappled with throughout her life? How has she
usually dealt with any pain she has suffered?
18. Do you believe that Jack Mac consummated his affair
with Karen Bell? What evidence do you have for that
19. Jack Mac tells Ave, "I truly believed in us, and you never
did." What actions echo Jack Mac's assertion? How does
Jack Mac demonstrate his love for Ave?
20. At the end of Aunt Alice's life, Ave makes an effort to reconcile
with her. To what do you attribute this change of
heart? How does Ave's relationship with Alice compare to
the one she enjoys with her "Eye-talian" relatives?
21. What significance do you derive from the fact that Jack
Mac and Pete get along immediately? What does Pete's appearance
in Big Stone Gap, as promised, indicate about his
character? How is he similar to Jack Mac, and how is he
22. Do you feel that this book is a lead-up to Etta's stand-alone
story? How do you envision Etta's adolescence and
23. Adriana Trigiani, the book's author, also is an accomplished
playwright. How does this novel have the feel of a
play--whether through Trigiani's use of dialogue, setting,
conflict, or any other literary device?